[Ben Holmes]

R. Anderson Wrote:And I think very few people who know anything about the assassination would deny the Federal agencies involved were 100% cooperative.

This is such an amazingly huge whopper that it's amazing that Anderson can even make such a dishonest statement!

Let's consider just a few examples that prove Anderson a liar.

FBI: The 'Oswald Note' to Hosty was destroyed. Not very cooperative now, was that?

Now, that's really the only obvious counter-example I needed to prove Anderson a liar... but let's examine a few more examples:

Military: The military intelligence file on Oswald was "https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Destru... destroyed" and never seen by any investigation.

FBI/Warren Commission: The NAA testing results on the cheek cast were buried completely.

Military: Burned medical files by Dr. Humes.

Military: Stonewalled HSCA's attempt to find out about the military's investigation of Oswald

Whitehouse: Erased tape of conversation between LBJ & Hoover.

Warren Commission: No-one familiar with the testimony is unaware of the many times the Warren Commission went "Off the Record" ... and thereby covered up relevant information. Nor did they call to testify extremely important witnesses... thus depriving history of their relevant and contemporary testimony.

CIA: Where do you begin? The CIA covered up so much that "cooperative" is a word used only as a joke. Starting with, of course, the tapes of Oswald from Mexico City.

Secret Service: Destroyed relevant files before the ARRB could examine them (and, of course, never offered them to the Warren Commission)

FBI/Secret Service: Withheld highly relevant information on Joseph Milteer.

I can go on and on... many more examples can be given. Anyone familiar with the case evidence knows that it's an absolutely BLATANT LIE that the federal agencies were "100% cooperative".

[Lee Abbott]

I seriously wonder whether the fear of knowing they're on the wrong side turns otherwise normal and decent people into dishonest slimes.

[Ben Holmes]

(06-04-2016, 09:22 PM)Lee Abbott Wrote:  I seriously wonder whether the fear of knowing they're on the wrong side turns otherwise normal and decent people into dishonest slimes.

I fear that's an ad hominem attack, and would not be allowed in reference to anyone specific.

But it is interesting to note that no believer has corrected this blatant lie that federal agencies were "100% cooperative"... that's just so incredibly naive that it's just about impossible to believe it was said in the belief that it was true.

And despite the ad hominem - Lee gives a very credible and valid explanation why WCR Supporters always seem to have problems with the truth.

I generally refer to it as a faith - they have faith, and the truth can't shake it... I fear that believers really believe what they're spouting...

[Patrick C]

(06-04-2016, 03:28 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  

R. Anderson Wrote:And I think very few people who know anything about the assassination would deny the Federal agencies involved were 100% cooperative.

This is such an amazingly huge whopper that it's amazing that Anderson can even make such a dishonest statement!

Let's consider just a few examples that prove Anderson a liar.

FBI: The 'Oswald Note' to Hosty was destroyed. Not very cooperative now, was that?

Now, that's really the only obvious counter-example I needed to prove Anderson a liar... but let's examine a few more examples:

Military: The military intelligence file on Oswald was "https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Destru... destroyed" and never seen by any investigation.

FBI/Warren Commission: The NAA testing results on the cheek cast were buried completely.

Military: Burned medical files by Dr. Humes.

Military: Stonewalled HSCA's attempt to find out about the military's investigation of Oswald

Whitehouse: Erased tape of conversation between LBJ & Hoover.

Warren Commission: No-one familiar with the testimony is unaware of the many times the Warren Commission went "Off the Record" ... and thereby covered up relevant information. Nor did they call to testify extremely important witnesses... thus depriving history of their relevant and contemporary testimony.

CIA: Where do you begin? The CIA covered up so much that "cooperative" is a word used only as a joke. Starting with, of course, the tapes of Oswald from Mexico City.

Secret Service: Destroyed relevant files before the ARRB could examine them (and, of course, never offered them to the Warren Commission)

FBI/Secret Service: Withheld highly relevant information on Joseph Milteer.

I can go on and on... many more examples can be given. Anyone familiar with the case evidence knows that it's an absolutely BLATANT LIE that the federal agencies were "100% cooperative".

You are correct, the agencies were not 100% cooperative. However I would suggest they were largely mainly cooperative with all investigations.

Covering mistakes ref Hosty is not indicative of a conspiracy, so  I would read little if anything into that!

[Ben Holmes]

(09-08-2016, 01:16 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  

(06-04-2016, 03:28 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  

R. Anderson Wrote:And I think very few people who know anything about the assassination would deny the Federal agencies involved were 100% cooperative.

This is such an amazingly huge whopper that it's amazing that Anderson can even make such a dishonest statement!

Let's consider just a few examples that prove Anderson a liar.

FBI: The 'Oswald Note' to Hosty was destroyed. Not very cooperative now, was that?

Now, that's really the only obvious counter-example I needed to prove Anderson a liar... but let's examine a few more examples:

Military: The military intelligence file on Oswald was "https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Destru... destroyed" and never seen by any investigation.

FBI/Warren Commission: The NAA testing results on the cheek cast were buried completely.

Military: Burned medical files by Dr. Humes.

Military: Stonewalled HSCA's attempt to find out about the military's investigation of Oswald

Whitehouse: Erased tape of conversation between LBJ & Hoover.

Warren Commission: No-one familiar with the testimony is unaware of the many times the Warren Commission went "Off the Record" ... and thereby covered up relevant information. Nor did they call to testify extremely important witnesses... thus depriving history of their relevant and contemporary testimony.

CIA: Where do you begin? The CIA covered up so much that "cooperative" is a word used only as a joke. Starting with, of course, the tapes of Oswald from Mexico City.

Secret Service: Destroyed relevant files before the ARRB could examine them (and, of course, never offered them to the Warren Commission)

FBI/Secret Service: Withheld highly relevant information on Joseph Milteer.

I can go on and on... many more examples can be given. Anyone familiar with the case evidence knows that it's an absolutely BLATANT LIE that the federal agencies were "100% cooperative".

You are correct, the agencies were not 100% cooperative. However I would suggest they were largely mainly cooperative with all investigations.

Trying to argue that you can be just a little pregnant?

You can't be "largely mainly cooperative" and still hide & coverup the evidence. I'm truly amused at your inability to recognize historical facts.

(09-08-2016, 01:16 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  Covering mistakes ref Hosty is not indicative of a conspiracy, so  I would read little if anything into that!

That's merely an opinion on your part, and means nothing judging from your history of lying. The fact that the FBI went to such extraordinary efforts to eliminate all connections with Oswald certainly raise questions that you're afraid to answer...

And demonstrates, as all other examples demonstrate - that there was no "cooperation" that believers lie about.

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