[Ben Holmes]

Patrick C Wrote:

Garry Puffer Wrote:Apologies, Patrick. That statement is much less hilarious, although Ben's reply to my previous post makes your statement kind of impossible.

It is amusing that you LNers constantly accuse critics of just making stuff up, and then you do the same thing yourself. In other words, you might have read this somewhere and simply taken it for true rather than checking. Now at this late date you claim to not even remember where you picked up these nuggets. A few minutes searching the internet would be advisable before making such assertions. You have time enough to make all these posts, so you have time enough to do a little searching.

Yes and no Garry, not everything that has been said about the assassination by key people has been recorded on the web.

Remember I spent a lot of time in Dallas in the 80s. It is entirely possible I heard that Zapruder did acknowledge that he stopped filming from some one like Mary Ferrell - for example. I know Larry Harris has been in touch with Zapruder's daughter - it is possible that she had said something.

You're lying again - and since Zapruder's initial testimony CONTRADICTING any such yarn has been posted here, you KNOW that you're lying.

Tell us Patrick - if your case is so strong, why do you need to rely on lies about the evidence in this case?

You KNOW what Zapruder testified to... yet you're willing to pretend that you have an "opinion" that contradicts it.

Patrick C Wrote:Anyway, the FACT is of course that he DID stop filming. Plain and simple.

Once again, you're substituting your opinion for fact. You KNOW the evidence that contradicts this - and refuse to address it.

Why the cowardice, Patrick?

Do you really suppose that it's fair to argue for a "fact" that's contradicted by the very evidence you absolutely REFUSE to address?

Patrick C Wrote:

Garry Puffer Wrote:The question now is, will you admit you were wrong about both things, or will you attempt to get out of it somehow?

Oh absolutely I could be mistaken, but the comment was made in good faith. Again, this is not a book, nor a court of law, its an internet blog effectively.

You already know by now that you cannot cite for your claim. "Mistaken" isn't the right word at this point... this means that you KNOW you're lying.

You've admitted that you have NO SOURCE YOU CAN CITE for this claim, yet you continue to double down on it.

I'm quite surprised that you complain about being called a liar, then go right ahead and continue doing so...

Patrick C Wrote:Unlike you Garry - perhaps, I am no longer deep into this case. I was - very much so and probably did a lot more work and local research in Dallas and New Orleans than anyone on this forum, but these days, no it's a 50+ year old murder case that should have been put to bed in 1964.

And I checked with Mike Majerus and he said he did not have any direct quote from Zapruder stating he stopped filming, so Mike could not back me up either.

It is apparent also that more recent analysis with technology not available to the original investigators has confirmed that the shots were doable - probably over 8+ seconds if three shots and the SB Fact emerges as 100% realistic. Myers debunked the "acoustics evidence" almost beyond doubt.

More 'opinion' - and not a citation in sight...

Nor the retraction that an honest person would proffer...