[Ben Holmes]

(09-29-2016, 09:11 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  

(09-29-2016, 07:31 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  Ref Rybka & Lawton, Kellerman or higher up changed the plan - happens all the time. Can I be bothered to research it - nope.

But as I stated earlier - the idea that individuals in the US SS were part of a plot to kill JFK...beggars belief.

All you've done is illustrate that you don't have the facts to support your claims, and second, that you don't know history.

Aurelian
Balvinus
Balbinus
Caligula
Caracalla
Commodus
Elagabalus
Galba
Gordian III
Numerian
Pertinax
Marcus Aurelius Probus
Pupienus

And this is just the Roman leaders who were killed by their own guard. I can, with just a tad more research, bring the list up to date... but it would be silly.

Anyone with any brains will understand that those who are closest to you have the greatest opportunity to kill you.

Your faith that Americans wouldn't do such a thing is touching, but misplaced.

I note for the record that you're still lying about Dr. Baden...

And about the scenario I've outlined for the conspiracy... 

And about how many people heard shots coming from the Grassy Knoll...

And doubtless other lies I've forgotten by now...

A demonstration of the power of my point made above - is that Patrick has twice been unable to answer it without personal ad hominem attacks.

It's merely historical fact that many leaders down through the ages have been killed by their own security services. In JFK's case, it was merely with the assistance of the Secret Service, and not by them personally - this is what the evidence shows.

But Patrick cannot address that evidence, and has sunk to denying historical reality.

And while it's good that he has such a high opinion of American Secret Service agents, isn't simply not very realistic to place them on a pedestal that the evidence shows they don't reside on.