[Ben Holmes]

(11-04-2016, 06:12 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  

(10-30-2016, 08:40 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  DVP states

Quote:No bullets (or large bullet fragments) were found inside the body of Governor Connally after the shooting. The only bullet, anywhere, that can possibly be connected with Connally's wounds is Bullet CE399."

Untrue. DVP is well aware of the disappearing bullet fragments found in Connally's wrist. Nor is it true that CE399 is the only bullet that can be connected to Connally's wounds... the attending doctor testified that up to THREE bullets could have caused Connally's wounds.

Do you understand the difference between bullet or large bullet fragments....?

Of course. Do you?

DVP knew very well, as do you, that there are bullet fragments found in Connally that have disappeared, and thus cannot be scientifically demonstrated to have come from one bullet or another... indeed, had the actual weight of those missing fragments been what has been stated, it would have made it IMPOSSIBLE for CE399 to have been the involved bullet.

 

(11-04-2016, 06:12 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  The slivers of bullet that were taken from Connally were the thickness of a postage stamp and minute......

Yes of course three bullets "COULD" have caused Conally's wounds - his chest wounds, his wrist wound and his leg wound because they were on seperate parts of the body. However if they are connected up - they could also have been caused by one bullet.

Your point is moot.

I'm quite sure you're aware that Nurse Audrey Bell, who actually handled these fragments, asserted that "the smallest was the size of the striking end of a match, and the largest at least twice as big."

So no... you aren't being quite truthful with your assertions... as usual.

 

(11-04-2016, 06:12 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  

(10-30-2016, 08:40 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  There's been no evidence presented to show that CE399 was even fired on 11/22/63. Indeed, the weight of the testimony tends to indicate that this was part of a frameup, rather than legitimate evidence.

CE399 was found on a hospital stretcher - there was no scientific or ballistics test then to determine if it had been fired on that Friday.

As far as I am aware, there is no test now that could show that a bullet had been fired on a given day.

So you agree with me...

You must obviously reject DVP's claim that "5.) Bullet CE399, based on the above points in total, HAD to have been inside Governor Connally's body on 11/22/63." - yet quite dishonestly, you refuse to publicly state that.

Why are you afraid to be honest, Patrick?

DVP clearly made a false claim - one that EVEN YOU admit could not have been shown to be true.

YET YOU REFUSE TO PUBLICLY CHASTISE A FELLOW BELIEVER FOR A FALSE CLAIM!!

And then go on to claim that there can be honest believers... and name DVP as one of them!!!

Do you have no shame?

 

(11-04-2016, 06:12 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  

(10-30-2016, 08:40 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  Nope. The Zapruder film does NOT show that JFK and JBC were hit by the same bullet. It quite clearly shows Connally reacting several seconds LATER than JFK. DVP knows this - and glosses over it.

The Zapruder film shows that Kennedy and Connally show a visible reaction to being shot within a second of each other. Z222 to Z236 which is 14 frames or approx 5/6ths of a second.

It is perfectly reasonable for a human to show a delayed reaction to a gun shot to the torso. No one can doubt that. It is a fact.

DVP is not quite right, the bullet, the bullet could have struck the limo had it been diverted on exit for example. The fact is it was not, because the bullet did not strike the limo, it struck Connally's back.

Tut tut tut, Patrick, you're lying again.

Here's DVP's claim again:

Quote:9.) Given the point in time when both JFK and JBC were first hit by rifle fire (based on the Abraham Zapruder Film), and given the known location of Governor Connally's back (entrance) wound, and also taking into account the individual points made above -- Bullet CE399 had no choice but to have gone through the body of President Kennedy prior to entering the back of John B. Connally.

Yet you say he's "not quite right".

YOU'RE A LIAR.

If a bullet "could have been diverted" - then it certainly could not have "...had no choice but to have gone the body of President Kennedy prior to entering the back of John B. Connally."

You want to eat your cake and have it too...

You're too dishonest to simply admit that I refuted DVP's nine claims quite easily - and you couldn't defend him. You've only answered three of the claims, and quite poorly at that...