[Ben Holmes]

(10-25-2016, 05:32 PM)Nick Principe Wrote:  

(10-25-2016, 04:24 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  Only one rifle was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD on 22 Nov afternoon

No reports of two rilfes was ever made

Only one rifle was brought out of the building.

If the Alyea film does show another weapon - it is a police weapon plain and simple.

If you were addressing me about denying the Alyea fim does not show a rifle, I never said that. I stated it was not possible to determine if the object was a rifle or shot gun and I suggested it could even be the edge of a flattened cardboard box - which IMO it clearly could be.

The matter is a non subject and yet another example of pro conspiracy fairy tale nonsense.

Whoop-de-doo, Patrick. The Alyea photo is not the topic of this thread. It was mentioned merely as an aside. It appears you, like Seinzant, avoid the topic of Henry "five gunshots to the chest" Marshall's suicide. Regardless of what it means or how it does or doesn't relate to the Kennedy assassination, you avoid it.

This is an excellent example of the outrageously dishonest behavior on the part of believers... it's quite clear and beyond any credible dispute to the average viewer that there are two rifles in the video frame... I've tested this on several people, and without prompting on my part other than to ask them to describe everything they see in the frame, everyone I've tested this on has stated that there were two rifles.

Yet Patrick Collins pretends to see a cardboard box - rather than a second rifle.

Interestingly, Patrick Collins has BLATANTLY LIED here... he will NEVER produce a citation to any online location where he stated that there were two weapons to be seen ... (as he's doing now).

Tell us Patrick - can you produce a citation to any previous statements on this issue where you stated that two rifles might be seen here?

Just for reference, here's Patrick's actual previous statement:

Patrick C Wrote:Ref "two rifles"

Holmes old chap....

Can you name one DPD officer or journalist who reported two rifles being found that afternoon? As in two rifles on the 6th floor or for that matter another rifle on one of the upper floors?

And please I am not referring to the "Mauser non story".....which was clearly debunked years ago by all but the loony fringe of the assassination community.

As for the pics (Alya film stills?) looks like a folded up cardboard box side on to me Holmes. As per your U Haul boxes before you put them together - it clearly has a fold in the middle as the object is not straight.....new glasses Holmes....?

http://www.amazon.com/forum/jfk/ref=cm_c...AQ26IIO3RQ

Compare that quoted statement with what Patrick claims to have said...

Patrick is once again a proven liar.