[Ben Holmes]

Quote:"Speculation.--The throat wound sustained by the President was the result of a shot fired from the front according to doctors at Parkland Hospital.

Commission finding.--Doctors at Parkland Hospital originally believed that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound, but they made no examination to determine entry and exit." (WCR 641)

The doctors at Parkland DID NOT "originally believe that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound"... All of the first day statements and observations, both spoken and put down in writing - all asserted the same thing, that the neck wound was a penetrating or entry wound. It's well known today that the Secret Service sent two agents to Parkland, who succeeded in changing minds about the direction of the neck wound by telling Parkland that the autopsy showed this. (3H 363-364)

Interestingly, although there were known to have been interviews conducted with Parkland staff, a total of 24 Secret Service and 6 FBI interviews - yet not a single one of these reports were included in the 26 volumes - according to Sylvia Meagher.

The Warren Commission simply lied. 

And it's amusing that no believers will be able to refute this example of the Warren Commission lying about the evidence.

[Patrick C]

Ben Holmes Wrote:

Quote:"Speculation.--The throat wound sustained by the President was the result of a shot fired from the front according to doctors at Parkland Hospital.

Commission finding.--Doctors at Parkland Hospital originally believed that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound, but they made no examination to determine entry and exit." (WCR 641)

The doctors at Parkland DID NOT "originally believe that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound"... All of the first day statements and observations, both spoken and put down in writing - all asserted the same thing, that the neck wound was a penetrating or entry wound. It's well known today that the Secret Service sent two agents to Parkland, who succeeded in changing minds about the direction of the neck wound by telling Parkland that the autopsy showed this. (3H 363-364)

Interestingly, although there were known to have been interviews conducted with Parkland staff, a total of 24 Secret Service and 6 FBI interviews - yet not a single one of these reports were included in the 26 volumes - according to Sylvia Meagher.

The Warren Commission simply lied. 

And it's amusing that no believers will be able to refute this example of the Warren Commission lying about the evidence.

Absolute hogwash.

The theory that the neck woudn was an entry is nothing short of pitiful. The Parkland doctors were not in a position to make an accurate judgment on whether or not the wound was an entry or exit.

Of course the theory, to be correct requires two non transitting bullets plus a separate shot to Connally - giving three "non fatal" shots.....add that to the head shot and the shot tally starts to climb beyond what almost anyone heard.

The theory is as adopted by extreme, illogical conspiracy sensationalists and cannot even begin to be taken seriously. It is for want of better word, laughable.

[Ben Holmes]

(08-10-2016, 10:41 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  

Ben Holmes Wrote:

Quote:"Speculation.--The throat wound sustained by the President was the result of a shot fired from the front according to doctors at Parkland Hospital.

Commission finding.--Doctors at Parkland Hospital originally believed that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound, but they made no examination to determine entry and exit." (WCR 641)

The doctors at Parkland DID NOT "originally believe that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound"... All of the first day statements and observations, both spoken and put down in writing - all asserted the same thing, that the neck wound was a penetrating or entry wound. It's well known today that the Secret Service sent two agents to Parkland, who succeeded in changing minds about the direction of the neck wound by telling Parkland that the autopsy showed this. (3H 363-364)

Interestingly, although there were known to have been interviews conducted with Parkland staff, a total of 24 Secret Service and 6 FBI interviews - yet not a single one of these reports were included in the 26 volumes - according to Sylvia Meagher.

The Warren Commission simply lied. 

And it's amusing that no believers will be able to refute this example of the Warren Commission lying about the evidence.

Absolute hogwash.

The theory that the neck woudn was an entry is nothing short of pitiful. The Parkland doctors were not in a position to make an accurate judgment on whether or not the wound was an entry or exit.

It's truly amusing to see how you changed the topic.

The topic is that the Warren Commission lied when they made the statement that "Doctors at Parkland Hospital originally believed that the throat wound could have been either an entry or exit wound..." - yet you offer ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that would support the Warren Commission in that statement.

In other words, you do know that they lied... for otherwise, you'd address that issue.

But this is typical for you, Patrick. You dodge & weave, then run away... and pretend the issue was never raised.

Such as your claim that the McAdams' tabulation is "unassailable" - even though you've certainly known all along that it isn't... you simply lied.

Then ran from that debate when it became quite apparent that you'd lied.

(08-10-2016, 10:41 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  Of course the theory, to be correct requires two non transitting bullets plus a separate shot to Connally - giving three "non fatal" shots.....add that to the head shot and the shot tally starts to climb beyond what almost anyone heard.

Why can't you deal with the actual topic, Patrick?

Did the Warren Commission tell the truth about what Parkland originally stated & believed? Can you document anything that would lead anyone to believe that the Warren Commission wasn't lying?

(08-10-2016, 10:41 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  The theory is as adopted by extreme, illogical conspiracy sensationalists and cannot even begin to be taken seriously. It is for want of better word, laughable.

And yet, it's a fact that Dr. Shaw said Connolly could have been hit by as many as three bullets... and Dr. Gregory gave five separate reasons why the bullet that struck Connolly's wrist went from dorsal to volar... a virtual IMPOSSIBILITY had the shot come from the 6th floor. These are the true experts... they had no axe to grind, they were competent in their field - yet you pretend that you can't take them seriously.

Now... getting back to the original issue.

Did the Warren Commission tell the truth about what Parkland originally said & believed? And can you DOCUMENT that?