[William Charleston]

Quote:by Lee Abbott
Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:14 pm
Was that what Secret Service agent Kellerman referred to as a "flurry of shots" .... An echo chamber?

What Roy Kellerman said about the order of the last sounds of shots is not sufficient in this case to prove the last two shots really were BANG-BANG. Kellerman goes on to define the flurry of shots as TWO, like a jet breaking the sound barrier.

But due to the fact DOZENS of other witnesses said they also heard BANG-BANG (or words to that effect) takes it from an isolated observation by one person that might be wrong to the point of being a bit more believable, but dozens of people saying they heard BANG-BANG still does NOT prove that is what happened.

Quote:by Patrick C
Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:20 pm
The single shot to head that was fired from the TSBD 6th floor SE window had three composite sounds initially:

Sound barrier
Muzzle blast
Impact

Fragmentation of the bullet caused pieces to strike the windshield and the mirror and trimming

Echoes would occur.....

Why isn't Patrick C right? His argument sounds reasonable and that is consistent with what the US government concluded (the last sounds were echoes, not separate shots).

At this point, you have a tie with no way of knowing with certainty which is right.


But now IF YOU CONSIDER evidence that most of you have considered INVALID, you can break the tie and know with certainty what actually did happen. But to use seemingly invalid evidence is nothing but a useless effort unless you know something that the really smart experts did NOT know when they told you the "newer" evidence is invalid.

The "tie" for this evidence is two sets of audio experts reviewed the Dallas police radio recording made during the shooting. They said based on reviews of test shots fired in Dealey Plaza that the echo sounds of gunfire statistically matched the actual police recording such that there was FOUR shot fired. A later review showed that the audio experts did NOT show there was a 5th shot which the experts showed was also statistically valid. On the other side of the acoustical evidence validity question is that SEVERAL (really meaning MANY) experts in other fields determined that the audio evidence is NOT valid. Their arguments include cross talk, and motorcycle ignition noise and even cosmic noise

WHICH DO YOU BELIEVE?

Now you can consider the tie breaker for the audio evidence. If the times between shots using the audio evidence matches the times between shots using the Zapruder film, then that means BOTH the Zapruder film AND the audio evidence are tied to the same events. That does NOT mean that everything you see in the Zapruder film is what actually happened. When the film was forged on the first weekend after the assassination, it was a sloppy job. The conspirators never expected or wanted the Z film to be released to the public but Jim Garission's New Orleans circus subpoenaed the Zapruder film and copies were released to the public. Any reasonable person after reviewing Doug Horne's work on the ARRB (Assasssination Records Review Board) knows the Zapruder film has been forged. But the forgers did NOT significantly change the timing of what actually happened which is why the times between shots in the Z film reasonably matches the audio analysis of the Dallas police radio recording. As Doug says, in 1963, they could only change so much. Dino Brugioni should remove all doubt you have about the authenticity of the Z film.

https://vimeo.com/102327635



The five shots in the acoustical analysis tie to events in the Zapruder film
Shot #1 Z frame 178 Rosemary Willis immediately stopped running when she heard the first shot
Shot #2 Z frame 201 JFK is waving before he disappears behind the sign with his hand above his head. A second later, he has his hands to his neck responding to the shot fired from the left front through the windshield. JFK's RAPID lowering of his hands is in response to his neck wond
Shot #3 Z frame 224 Connally was doing nothing during the time behind the sign as he is looking to his right BEFORE he disappears and as he emerges from behind the sign, then he begins his dramatic turn to look to his right as he reacts to a minor bullet fragment wound to his left thigh (this is only one of the things that happen due to the shot fired at Z224)
Shot #4 Z frame 313 JFK is hit in the head by a shot fired from the grassy knoll (with a probability of 95% or better)
Shot #5 Z frame 325, fired from the TSBD, it misses JFK's head and hit Connally in the back, bending him over.

Once you understand the facts presented, it is clear the sounds of the shots were recorded. That VALIDATES some of the analysis the audio experts did but there are still significant errors in what they said happened. By using BOTH the Zapruder film AND the corrected audio analysis, you can PROVE what happened during the shooting.

Once you show what happened during the shooting using the Zapruder film and the acoustical analysis, you can then compare that information to the US government's Warren Commission conclusions. When you do that, you will find discrepancies between what actually happened and what the government said happened. When you look at the discrepencies, it quickly becomes obvious that either the government investigators were the biggest bunch of idiots in history OR the fix was in . The correct answer is: The fix was in.

It makes no difference what you or I think happened, it only matters what the mathematics in the assassination of President Kennedy shows. Using high school level math, it can be easily shown the probability of just a few of the "coincidences" randomly occurring in the assassination would be well over a million to one against these happening. In other words, many of these events that the Warren Commission and the HSCA worked to ignore were not random, they were causal events associated with a powerful conspiracy.

What would be true if the acoustical evidence is valid (and this is just a short list) and the US government forged evidence to hide the truth?

1. Medical personnel at Parkland would have seen a large exit wound in the rear of President Kennedy's head because the audio evidence shows shot #4 was fired from the right front of JFK. The US government's "evidence" would show a rear entry shot fired by a lone shooter.



2. The acoustical evidence analysis shows the last two shots were fired BANG-BANG, two shots 0.7 seconds apart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUagGiWd5cY There are dozens more who said they heard the last two shots were fired BANG-BANG but I like this one because Patsy Paschall says almost immediately she heard BANG-BANG (pow-pow means the same thing ) Plus I get tired of putting in links to their interviews.....

3. When you look at the Z film and use the timing of the acoustical analysis, you see John Connally violently bent over a split second AFTER JFK was shot in the head. John Connally should say when the bullet hit him in the back, that it bent him over because that is what we see happened in the Z film. He did say the force of the blow to his back bent him over in every interview I've seen him do when he talked about the shooting.

https://vimeo.com/140778495



4. If the US government lied about the assassination and forged evidence, then we should see "problems" with their explanation. Let me count the ways (but I'll just show one here).


JFK's shirt showed an entry in his back about 5 inches below his collar

A bullet hole in his back about 5 inches below his collar with a shot fired from behind and above means that the bullet could NOT exit his throat and then go DOWN to hit Connally in front of him.

What is really interesting about the last figure is that there are people who quote this "documentary" to say they recreated the SBT shot. NO THEY DIDN'T but the TV show said they did. That is apparently sufficient for those who don't pay attention to details like it's impossible.

I could keep listing pesky facts that show the SBT didn't happen but the BANG-BANG scenario really did happen but even then, some will bury their head even deeper below ground level. The Kennedy assassination mystery then becomes a psychological issue and ceases being a technical issue.