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Patrick C Wrote:Wishful thinking on the conspiracy side....?

That's the extent of your analysis, Patrick? The absolute best you can do?

Why even bother commenting?

This is essentially saying "tripe" with no further comment. I asked previously that you not do this without some kind of rebuttal argument to go along with it. I ask again.

Don't do this any more. I thought you desired a civil discussion of the issues.

WHY is it wishful thinking on our part? Explain how there are no differences in the two weapons,

Ben Holmes Wrote:

Patrick C Wrote:As for the pics (Alya film stills?) looks like a folded up cardboard box side on to me Holmes. As per your U Haul boxes before you put them together - it clearly has a fold in the middle as the object is not straight.....new glasses Holmes....?

I do think Patrick is describing the object on the left of the photo. He is not even looking in the right place.

Garry Puffer Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:

Patrick C Wrote:As for the pics (Alya film stills?) looks like a folded up cardboard box side on to me Holmes. As per your U Haul boxes before you put them together - it clearly has a fold in the middle as the object is not straight.....new glasses Holmes....?

I do think Patrick is describing the object on the left of the photo. He is not even looking in the right place.

Nah... I posted both photos, and the conversation was clearly about the TWO WEAPONS THAT COULD BE SEEN - Yet Patrick absolutely refuses to publicly state that he can see two weapons.

It would be nice to somehow twist this into a misunderstanding of some sort... because clearly what you have is a prima facie case of sheer dishonesty & cowardice.

Has Patrick ever considered the strange looking object with the "fold in the middle" is a photo from his last visit to the proctologist's office?

There is ZERO issue of dishonesty Holmes on my part.

The image to the front is clearly a weapon, the other image could be cardboard. Obviously I cannot offer anything other than an opinion. I simply do not think you can conclude there are two weapons in the picture. There could be. So what...

it matters not, there were plenty of police weapons in and around the TSBD that afternoon.

So I do not know what you are barking on about.

Patrick C Wrote:There is ZERO issue of dishonesty Holmes on my part.

The image to the front is clearly a weapon, the other image could be cardboard. Obviously I cannot offer anything other than an opinion. I simply do not think you can conclude there are two weapons in the picture. There could be. So what...

it matters not, there were plenty of police weapons in and around the TSBD that afternoon.

So I do not know what you are barking on about.

As I've pointed out many times before, you have made my point. Despite my repeated assertions that many police weapons were there, and that this second weapon IS ALMOST CERTAINLY A POLICE WEAPON - I've been unable to find any believer honest enough to state that they see a second weapon.

My working theory is that believers are terrified that if they admit publicly that they see it, that I'll suddenly whip out the previously hidden evidence I have proving that it's a Mauser.

In any case, if someone wishes to argue that knowledgeable believers are honest - this is the post that I'll refer them to.

I have no problem with it being a police weapon or a cardboard box Ben.

Just not a Mauser.

Patrick C Wrote:I have no problem with it being a police weapon or a cardboard box Ben.

Just not a Mauser.

It's not a matter of what you have a 'problem' with.

It's a matter that no believer is willing to state that they can see two weapons in this video.

Which illustrates just how fanatic & dogmatic believers tend to be.

I've stated time and time again that there would be no surprises if a believer could simply admit to seeing two weapons in this video. It's quite plain & obvious.

But the fact that believers absolutely refuse to state the obvious makes my point... that believers live in a different reality than the rest of humanity... one in which it's inconceivable to make any statement that contradicts the bible - also known as the Warren Commission Report.

You see, I know... and I'm sure you know I know... that you really can see two weapons in this video.

Garry Puffer Wrote:Here is an oddity. When the Carcano in the Backyard Photographs is compared to the Carcano in the National Archives, they do not appear to be the same weapon.

What can explain this?

BYP and NA Carcanos Compared.png

That's the mistake Jack White made. You can't just take two random photos of the same object and expect the proportions to match.

Are these the same windows?

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Ben Holmes Wrote:

Patrick C Wrote:I have no problem with it being a police weapon or a cardboard box Ben.

Just not a Mauser.

It's not a matter of what you have a 'problem' with.

It's a matter that no believer is willing to state that they can see two weapons in this video.

Which illustrates just how fanatic & dogmatic believers tend to be.

I've stated time and time again that there would be no surprises if a believer could simply admit to seeing two weapons in this video. It's quite plain & obvious.

But the fact that believers absolutely refuse to state the obvious makes my point... that believers live in a different reality than the rest of humanity... one in which it's inconceivable to make any statement that contradicts the bible - also known as the Warren Commission Report.

You see, I know... and I'm sure you know I know... that you really can see two weapons in this video.

There are clearly two weapons in that frame. In what bizarre CT universe does it matter? I thought you guys had a case to solve, but I guess it's more fun to play games and call other people liars.