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Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Ben Holmes - 10-25-2016
Patrick has repeatedly claimed that Malcolm Kilduff got his information about JFK's wounds from Dr. Perry... despite the fact that WHEN HE DESCRIBED THOSE WOUNDS, he also said who he got the information from.
Here it is again, at the 2:39 mark:
Despite the fact that Patrick has seen this video many times - he's still willing to lie about it.
Why the lies, Patrick???
What do you think it gains you?
Why is it so impossible for either you or Henry Sienzant to publicly state that Kilduff got his information from Dr. Burkley???
And if you'll lie about something so easily checked, how can anyone trust anything you say on things that are more difficult to validate?
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Patrick C - 10-25-2016
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I have referred to you a link that shows the Mac Kilduff 1991 interview around 3 or 4 times. Mainly because you failed to understand a simple point in the first place.
It is what Kilduff says that is important - that it was Perry who advised him.
If he got the information from anothe rdoctor - so what!
He got the information is that JFK was killed by a gunshot wound to the head.
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I have maybe asked you before - perhaps English is not your first language ? Because you certainly seem to misinterpret a lot.
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Ben Holmes - 10-25-2016
(10-25-2016, 01:49 PM)Patrick C Wrote: [Ad Hominem removed by Forum Administrator]
I have referred to you a link that shows the Mac Kilduff 1991 interview around 3 or 4 times. Mainly because you failed to understand a simple point in the first place.
It is what Kilduff says that is important - that it was Perry who advised him.
If he got the information from anothe rdoctor - so what!
He got the information is that JFK was killed by a gunshot wound to the head.
That you think I am lying about something here [Ad Hominem removed by Forum Administrator]
I have maybe asked you before - perhaps English is not your first language ? Because you certainly seem to misinterpret a lot.
This is really a simple issue.
I even cited the video, and directed you to precisely the right time frame... and then you STILL lied.
If this is what it takes to defend the Warren Comission, why do it?
If you really believe you've not been caught multiple times in blatant lies, then why do you refuse to defend your lies?
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Patrick C - 10-26-2016
Like I said yesterday I don't see any point in discussing this matter with some one who can't understand plain English and who is bereft of logical deduction ability.
We are gulfs apart, we speak a different language and that should be plain for readers here to see. Your posts on the Kilduff matter are laughable and your interpretation of my very clear statement that it is Kilduff himself who cites two sources of infomation, is frankly astonishing.
Your ignorance on the manner of logical debate is positively Himalayan.
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Ben Holmes - 10-26-2016
(10-26-2016, 10:28 AM)Patrick C Wrote: Like I said yesterday I don't see any point in discussing this matter with some one who can't understand plain English and who is bereft of logical deduction ability.
In other words, you don't want to retract your original lie, and explain or support the lies you've been telling.
I can understand that.
(10-26-2016, 10:28 AM)Patrick C Wrote: We are gulfs apart, we speak a different language and that should be plain for readers here to see. Your posts on the Kilduff matter are laughable and your interpretation of my very clear statement that it is Kilduff himself who cites two sources of infomation, is frankly astonishing.
You're LYING again, Patrick.
Even you admit that Kilduff's decades later interview only "implied" that Dr. Perry was the source of his information on the wounds...
Only by constantly pointing out your lies have I been able to get you to even ACKNOWLEDGE the original source of Malcolm Kilduff's information... but even then, EVEN AFTER CITING THE PROOF - you replied to that post still refusing to acknowledge the truth.
Now you pretend that the "implied" statement is equal to the contemporary direct statement by Kilduff. It's not.
Nor did you publicly stated that Dr. Burkley was the source that Malcolm Kilduff specified, EVEN AFTER MULTIPLE CORRECTIONS BY ME - until your lies just got too painful for you... THEN, and only then... did you finally admit the truth.
(10-26-2016, 10:28 AM)Patrick C Wrote: Your ignorance on the manner of logical debate is positively Himalayan.
What "ignorance?"
You cannot quote any "ignorance" whatsoever... all you'll be able to quote is me citing the evidence, and pointing out that you're lying...
You cannot point to any requirement of "logical debate" that forbids me from pointing out your lies and cowardice.
Nor will you even try.
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Patrick C - 10-29-2016
Holmes,
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RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Ben Holmes - 10-30-2016
(10-29-2016, 10:24 AM)Patrick C Wrote: Holmes,
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Nothing to respond to.
It's amusing that Patrick couldn't defend or retract his blatant lie that Kilduff referenced Dr. Perry as the source of his statements about JFK's wounds.
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Patrick C - 10-31-2016
Ben Holmes Wrote:It's amusing that Patrick couldn't defend or retract his blatant lie that Kilduff referenced Dr. Perry as the source of his statements about JFK's wounds.
I have linked you to a 1991 interview with Kilduff in which he clearly states that Perry was his source on the head wound.
It is that simple.
He states he confered with Perry just after 13;50 seconds in;-
So I am afraid you have either missed that or are deliberately ignoring it in whcih case callin me the liar just makes you look frankly bonkers.
Are you mad...?
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Ben Holmes - 10-31-2016
(10-31-2016, 05:19 PM)Patrick C Wrote:Ben Holmes Wrote:It's amusing that Patrick couldn't defend or retract his blatant lie that Kilduff referenced Dr. Perry as the source of his statements about JFK's wounds.
I have linked you to a 1991 interview with Kilduff in which he clearly states that Perry was his source on the head wound.
YOU'RE LYING AGAIN, PATRICK!!!
I defy you to post the EXACT WORDS he uses ...
You won't, of course - because he says no such thing.
Tell us Patrick, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH LYING IN THIS FORUM???
(10-31-2016, 05:19 PM)Patrick C Wrote: It is that simple.
He states he confered with Perry just after 13;50 seconds in;-
[video=youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSpw9w5GGYk[/video]
So I am afraid you have either missed that or are deliberately ignoring it in whcih case callin me the liar just makes you look frankly bonkers.
Are you mad...?
The fact that you've just been nailed blatantly lying will be PROVEN when you absolutely REFUSE to quote Kilduff's words where he said that Perry was "his source on the head wound."
You'll admit just who's "mad" when you follow up this post without quoting Kilduff's exact words...
Remember folks - I predicted it in advance!!!
RE: Patrick Collins Blatantly Lies!!! - Patrick C - 11-04-2016
(10-31-2016, 08:29 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:(10-31-2016, 05:19 PM)Patrick C Wrote:Ben Holmes Wrote:It's amusing that Patrick couldn't defend or retract his blatant lie that Kilduff referenced Dr. Perry as the source of his statements about JFK's wounds.
I have linked you to a 1991 interview with Kilduff in which he clearly states that Perry was his source on the head wound.
YOU'RE LYING AGAIN, PATRICK!!!
I defy you to post the EXACT WORDS he uses ...
You won't, of course - because he says no such thing.
Tell us Patrick, WHY DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH LYING IN THIS FORUM???
(10-31-2016, 05:19 PM)Patrick C Wrote: It is that simple.
He states he confered with Perry just after 13;50 seconds in;-
[video=youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSpw9w5GGYk[/video]
So I am afraid you have either missed that or are deliberately ignoring it in whcih case callin me the liar just makes you look frankly bonkers.
Are you mad...?
The fact that you've just been nailed blatantly lying will be PROVEN when you absolutely REFUSE to quote Kilduff's words where he said that Perry was "his source on the head wound."
You'll admit just who's "mad" when you follow up this post without quoting Kilduff's exact words...
Remember folks - I predicted it in advance!!!
You state
Ben Holmes Wrote:The fact that you've just been nailed blatantly lying will be PROVEN when you absolutely REFUSE to quote Kilduff's words where he said that Perry was "his source on the head wound."
I posted
He states he confered with Perry just after 13;50 seconds in his 1991 interview.
You have ears - why do you need me to write it down.
It is a good post though because it shows just what an uneducated, insignificant and juvenile poster you are. Of course Kilduff states he got his info from Perry. That is what he said. There is no denying it.
That you think that I have not scripted the words makes me a liar is simply ridiculous.
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