David Von Pein Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:There was no "roll-call" that resulted in a single missing employee. It's a shame that not all believers can instantly state this for the record.

I've never been sure whether there was or wasn't an actual "roll call" of the TSBD warehouse employees, but in an interview conducted by Gary Mack in June of 2002, Buell Wesley Frazier said there definitely WAS a roll call of the Depository's warehouse employees shortly after the assassination, with names being READ OFF by someone. Here's what Frazier said in 2002:

BUELL WESLEY FRAZIER -- "Mr. Shelley got us together--he and Mr. Truly--and we had a roll call."

GARY MACK -- "And where did this take place?"

FRAZIER -- "Outside Mr. Shelley's office."

MACK -- "Did they actually read off names? Or did they just ask you guys, 'anybody missing'?"

FRAZIER -- "No, they read names off and you had to answer."

MACK -- "Okay. And who was missing?"

FRAZIER -- "The only person missing was Lee Oswald."

Audio of the above 6/21/2002 interview excerpt:

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Patrick C Wrote:Who cares whether there was a roll call or not....

Maybe the warehouse guys were assembled, maybe the office workers were not......maybe Truly and Shelly did an informal roll call.

I would be astonished if Oswald was the only person who did not stay at work and have never believed it.

And your point is what Holmes?

That you want to continue with your obsession with calling people liars if they have a different view to you?

Ben Holmes Wrote:It's quite cowardly of David to fail to note that the EARLIEST testimony & statements prove beyond all doubt that this cannot be true. So he pulls a statement from many years later to try to refute the fact that there were many people missing from the TSBD in the afternoon.

He's clearly still trying to save the mythical "roll-call" from it's well-deserved burial. David Von Pein is a coward... as well as a liar by implication. When you post evidence you KNOW to be untrue, and try to pass it off without noting that it's not true, you're lying. (The list of names & citations to their testimony has already been posted.)

Ben Holmes Wrote:Tell us Patrick - wouldn't you agree that someone posting evidence they KNOW to be untrue is a liar?

Patrick C Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:Tell us Patrick - wouldn't you agree that someone posting evidence they KNOW to be untrue is a liar?

I think you ignore interpretation.

But in principle yes under your framework of presenting the motion.