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Limited Hangouts... - Ben Holmes - 06-22-2016
Ben Holmes Wrote:John M Lane Wrote:Sometimes, however, it isn't. His death looks suspicious to me in view of KGB methods and capabilities and it looks suspicious to Pacepa, who worked with the KGB and conducted operations like this for his native Rumania under Soviet oversight.
Kennedy's death was certainly a conspiracy, one which the KGB had *NO POWER WHATSOEVER* to engineer.
They would have needed to have several Secret Service agents in their control, control at a very high level of the CIA, and control of the military.
None of this has *EVER* come to light in 50+ years... it's sheerest nonsense.
It's known as a "limited hangout" in the intelligence world - where you admit that there was a conspiracy, but *someone else* did it.
Ben Holmes Wrote:John M. Lane Wrote:There is no smoking Polonium cannister, however, so I'm admittedly left with my suspicions and Pacepa's informed description of other KGB/GRU operations.
Not only is there no smoking Polonium cannister, there's ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE for KGB involvement.
What this is ... is the common theme seen in any major crime where people wish to be known and seem powerful - and will admit their 'involvement' in order to gather some limelight.
If this murder of JFK had happened yesterday, ISIS would be claiming credit.
Believers like 'John M. Lane' abound in the JFK conspiracy forums - they pretend to be critics - but are never criticized by other believers ... they are frequently found to be asserting limited hangouts or nonsensical 'conspiracy' theories.
My favorite was a troll who dropped in a forum for about a dozen posts with the claim that one of the three men on the Dealey Plaza stairs fired shots... a claim so incredibly silly that he quickly disappeared.
Another is the "Greer did it" theory...
The problem, of course, is that there's no evidence for these other asserted conspiracies, they are only meant to deflect from the real conspiracy.
Re: Limited Hangouts... - Patrick C - 06-23-2016
Retired Sheriff John Lane does think the KGB were behind the assassination..
I find that notion pretty much off the scale....but I am interested to know from Ben who YOU think were behind the assassination.....
In my pro C younger and less wise days...I favoured the anti Castro Cubans setting up a bogus Castro backed plot......but now I have little doubt Oswald just got those two hits off in 5+ seconds....a simple act of murder really.
Re: Limited Hangouts... - Ben Holmes - 06-23-2016
Patrick C Wrote:Retired Sheriff John Lane does think the KGB were behind the assassination..
With no real evidence...
Partrick C Wrote:I find that notion pretty much off the scale....but I am interested to know from Ben who YOU think were behind the assassination.....
In my pro C younger and less wise days...I favoured the anti Castro Cubans setting up a bogus Castro backed plot......but now I have little doubt Oswald just got those two hits off in 5+ seconds....a simple act of murder really.
Ironic, isn't it, that the CIA sent Joanides to run interference at the HSCA...
And, by the way, the evidence is quite credible that a very early attempt was made to hang this on Castro. As I'm sure you're well aware.