[Mark Ulrik]

(08-09-2016, 03:12 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  

(08-09-2016, 12:04 PM)Mark Ulrik Wrote:  No Mark, you've not documented your claim. Mark Lane was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT that the overwhelming majority of witnesses who reported on 11/22 or 11/23 stated that the Grassy Knoll was the location of the shots.

Nothing you've said has changed that fact.

Your hypocrisy is breathtaking. You always demand of your opponents that they're accurate down to the last pixel, but your hero Mark Lane gets a free pass even when he's obviously wrong. Lane specifically said 22 of 25. But who says it was even an overwhelming majority? Should we just take your word for it?

Your fear of confronting the actual citations, and LISTING THE WITNESSES means nothing... you see, I don't have to list 'em... I never lied about the truthfulness of Mark Lane. You're claiming he lied, and you can't produce the lie... or any evidence of it.

Amazing. You've admitted yourself that Lane's numbers were wrong, and you're also the one who's refusing to post the data that you claim exonerates him somehow. I think we all know why.

Now you want to put the onus on me to produce a list of witnesses (something YOU should have done) - which will simply be another target for you to focus in on rather than your discredited assertion that Mark Lane lied. I've seen this tactic from WCR Supporters many times before... the changing of the topic...

I've done more than enough to prove Lane wrong. Now it's your turn to prove him right.

You lie about citations, you lie about the numbers involved, you somehow believe that lies will carry the day.

Yet you cannot cite the actual witnesses who were recorded on 11/22 and 11/23 - and show that Mark Lane was wrong in his point that he made.

One of many differences between the two of us is that I've never lied to you, Ben. And there's nothing wrong with my numbers. Lane said that only 3 of those witnesses didn't point to the GK as the source of the shots. I demonstrated - with quotes and page cites - that at least 5 not only didn't point to the GK, but actually to the TSBD instead. How many witnesses have you listed? What's stopping you from posting your data?

You focus on the minutia of numbers - and avoid the actual point he made...

I think my irony meter just burst. Again.

All you have to do is show that Mark Lane was wrong when he claimed that a majority of those witnesses pointed to the Grassy Knoll.

You haven't...

And you won't.

I can certainly understand why you desperately want to change the subject, but it's your claim that "an overwhelming majority" of the witnesses vaguely cited by Lane pointed to the GK. It's a vaguer version of Lane's original claim, of course, but still highly dubious, yet (despite claiming to have done the work) you absolutely refuse to support it. I think most of us can recognize an obvious bluff when we see one.

It all boils down to one irrefutable fact.

The overwhelming majority of witnesses who made statements on 11/22 or 11/23 stated that the shots came from the direction of the Grassy Knoll.

You absolute MUST AGREE with Mark Lane on that fact.

If you dispute him, then its up to you to produce your list of eyewitnesses, and cite what they said.

Since you refuse to do so - it's clear that you understand that Mark Lane told the truth.

Thank you for admitting that Lane's numbers are wrong. As his unofficial fan club president, that must have been a bitter pill to swallow.

And, no, I won't simply take your word for an "overwhelming majority." It's your (highly dubious) claim, so the onus is on you to support it. Lane was too much of a coward to list his 25 witnesses, and you refuse to post the tabulation you claim to have done. The lurkers are free to draw their own conclusions, but I frankly doubt it even exists.