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RE: Extreme conspiracy theories
(08-26-2016, 03:00 PM)Mark Ulrik Wrote:  
(08-25-2016, 11:58 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  
(08-25-2016, 08:52 AM)Mark Ulrik Wrote:  
(08-24-2016, 03:21 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  Let's hear you acknowledge that fact, Mark. Surely you don't want to label you a coward yet again... so acknowledge in your response that there were MORE THAN 25 WITNESSES DOCUMENTED ON 11/22 & 11/23.

Sign. I've already told you that I don't know. If we were to include unpublished documents, however, then the answer would certainly be yes, but Lane is supposed to have been found his 25 witnesses in the WC volumes.

You're lying again, Mark. I've cited the actual citation from Rush to Judgment, you acknowledged that you forgot the newspaper accounts, then you go right ahead and lie about it again.

Mark Lane gave THREE citations, not only the two found in the WC volumes.

Your abject cowardice doesn't surprise me... I rather suspect that you know very well that the true numbers support Mark Lane's statement as well.

I'm sorry to have to disappoint, but I've checked the newspaper accounts cited by Lane, and there weren't any shots from the GK area in there. One of those 11 witnesses did, however, say the shots came from the TSBD.

You're lying again, Mark.

A perfect example is Mary Woodward. Published on 11/23, and even McAdams admits is a Grassy Knoll witness. Found in Appendix 1, exactly as the citation gives.

You know Mark... you're going to keep lying, and I'm simply going to keep citing the evidence that proves you a liar.

It's a FACT that Mark Lane was completely correct in the actual point he made:
 
Mark Lane Wrote:Perhaps the most significant figures therefore—more significant even than the ones given above—are those attesting the immediate reactions of the witnesses to the assassination before there was any official version. Twenty-five witnesses are known to have given statements or affidavits on November 22 and November 23 about the origin of the shots. Twenty-two said they believed that the shots came from the knoll.

You still refuse to refute what Mark Lane actually said - which is that the majority of witnesses on the record in the first two days pointed to the Grassy Knoll.

You can keep lying - and I'll simply keep pointing it out.

 
(08-25-2016, 08:52 AM)Mark Ulrik Wrote:  
(08-24-2016, 03:21 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  If you could have found more, you'd have listed them by now.

It wouldn't be difficult to find additional non-GK witnesses, but I frankly have better things to do with my time. You haven't contributed anything of value to this discussion, so you're hardly in a position to make demands. Would you, however, be willing to pay me to do the research you're too lazy to do yourself, then I'll take your offer into consideration.

You're lying again, Mark. You need to find a MAJORITY of the witnesses documented on 11/22 and 11/23 in order to impugn Mark Lane's point.

You can't do it, and you KNOW you can't do it.

Only the dumbest of the dumb would think that I'd pay you to do nothing... and nothing is what you'd be able to do. Because a majority of documented witnesses in those first two days DID point to the Grassy Knoll. And nothing you can say or do will change that fact.

Mark Lane pointed it out in 1966 - and no believer has refuted it yet...






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