[Ben Holmes]

(09-05-2016, 03:44 PM)Patrick C Wrote:  

Ben Holmes Wrote:Quite often, when a believer is forced to cite, it turns out that the citation doesn't really say what he claimed it said.

Not in my case Holmes.

Ben Holmes Wrote:That is the true reason for refusing to cite.

Nonsense - there may be a number of different reasons. In my own case, I simply don't have the time or inclination. Nothing I have stated will ever change your mind on the case.


For example, I met around 23 witnesses to the assassination and around 15 law enforcement people in the 80s. I have notes in my thesis about what they told me, but I cannot cite for their testimony - the material is not published, nor is it official and or taken under oath.

But what I do know is that during the afternoon in the plaza as people gathered and stories began to form, most of the talk was of shots coming from the TSBD buidling and NOT the Knoll area....

There is no single absolute bible on the witness statements ref direction. McAdams does however interpret the statements he lists correctly in respect of Knoll area (including around the Knoll - ie railyard behind the bushes and picket fence) or TSBD / rear.

However your contention that Lane correctly states that the majority of witnesses that weekend are on record or tape etc as saying the shots came from the front is simply wrong. Plain and simple and you are deluding yourself.

A perfect example.

Patrick CONTINUES to refuse to cite for his claim.

And, let's not forget, continues to refuse to explain why he lied here:

Patrick C Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:But, as Mark Lane pointed out many years ago - the witnesses who were on the record in the first two days, 11/22 and 11/23 - quite overwhelmingly pointed to the Grassy Knoll.

Bull shit - no they did not.

Ben Holmes Wrote:No believer has been able to refute that simple fact.

Oh, if I could be bothered I could easily do that. Mike Majerus certainly has. It's just a question of homework and application.