[Ben Holmes]

Quote:"3. Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor Connally's wounds." (WCR 19)

Another excellent lie by omission... "the experts" are apparently Dr. Alfred G. Olivier, a veterinarian, and Dr. Arthur J. Dziemian, a PH.D. in physiology. As McKnight puts it:
 

Quote:"The awkward fact confronting the Commission in marshaling so-called expert testimony was that most of the experts the Commission called upon for this critical determination actually disagreed with the conclusion stated in the report. The three Bethesda prosectors, Drs. Humes, Boswell, and Finck, were convinced that a separate bullet had struck Connally. None of them supported the possibility that Commission Exhibit (CE) 399 (the so-called magic bullet) could have shattered the governor's wrist and remained in near-pristine condition. Dr. Joseph R. Dolce, the U.S. Army's expert on high velocity weapons and the military's top ballistics expert, remained un-yielding in his opinion that two bullets had hit Connally, with a separate bullet causing the extensive damage to his wrist. When Dolce told Commission lawyer Arlen Specter that the forensic evidence did not support the contention that both men had been hit by the same missile, he was never again consulted and was not called as a witness. Governor Connally's two principal surgeons, Drs. Robert R. Shaw and Charles F. Gregory, testified before the Commission in late April that Connally's wounds were too massive to have been inflicted by one missile, especially one that was barely mutilated. It is worth noting that it was a unique event in the investigation for the Bethesda prosectors and the Parkland Memorial Hospital doctors to be in agreement about the medicolegal evidence in the Kennedy assassination." Breach of Trust - Gerald McKnight, pg. 289.

Another obvious lie by the Warren Commission - the experts who could apply the best expertise to the topic were disregarded or even dismissed, while the WC 'shopped' for the "experts" who would support their thesis.

And unless you immerse yourself into the actual testimony of these critical medical & ballistic experts, you'd never know this from just reading the WCR.

Another lie exposed!

[Guest]

(08-20-2016, 02:57 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  

Quote:"3. Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor Connally's wounds." (WCR 19)

It is poorly worded, but there is no lie. What they are saying is that it is not possible to say whether or not the bullet that almost certainly passed through both men was the first or second shot fired.

There is a remote possibility that JFK had a delayed reaction and JC was hit by a seprate bullet - I do not accept that happened - but that is what the WC are leaving open.

I have zero issue with the statement in terms of drawing conclusions and neither should anyone else IMO.

[Ben Holmes]

(08-20-2016, 03:50 PM)Guest Wrote:  

(08-20-2016, 02:57 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  

Quote:"3. Although it is not necessary to any essential findings of the Commission to determine just which shot hit Governor Connally, there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor Connally's wounds." (WCR 19)

It is poorly worded, but there is no lie.

Then simply provide a citation to this "persuasive evidence".

But you cannot.

None exists...

Therefore, the Warren Commission was quite clearly lying. The actual testimony is quite different from how the Warren Commission portrayed it. You know it, I know it, and anyone who takes the time to read the Warren Commission testimony knows it.
 

(08-20-2016, 03:50 PM)Guest Wrote:  What they are saying is that it is not possible to say whether or not the bullet that almost certainly passed through both men was the first or second shot fired.

No, what they stated was "...there is very persuasive evidence from the experts to indicate that the same bullet which pierced the President's throat also caused Governor Connally's wounds."

That's a lie.

If it were NOT a lie, then you'd have simply cited this "persuasive evidence". But you cannot... it doesn't exist.

(08-20-2016, 03:50 PM)Guest Wrote:  There is a remote possibility that JFK had a delayed reaction and JC was hit by a seprate bullet - I do not accept that happened - but that is what the WC are leaving open.

This is, of course, what the witnesses testified to... that Connally was hit by a separate bullet. It really doesn't matter what your opinion is...

(08-20-2016, 03:50 PM)Guest Wrote:  I have zero issue with the statement in terms of drawing conclusions and neither should anyone else IMO.

Yet you refuse to simply cite this "persuasive evidence"... which, of course, simply goes to show that you well understand just how weak your case is.