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Did Mark Lane Lie Concerning Helen Markham? - Ben Holmes - 06-02-2016

R. Anderson Wrote:
Quote:Why don't you tell us about what a spectacular witness Helen Markham was to the Tippit shooting?

Instead we can talk about your boy Lane putting words in her mouth and thereby committing perjury.

It would be wonderful if believers could ever support this frequently seen assertion.

What words did Mark Lane put in Helen Markham's mouth? Where's the documentation of this? (I've several times posted online virtually the entire 'Rush To Judgment' - and never seem to have any refutations with Mark Lane's words right in front of them...)

And it seems downright mean (for those who've read Helen Markham's testimony) to suggest that believers actually must believe her.

Helen Markham was a kook. And even believers would be forced to admit it rather than defend her testimony.

Re: Did Mark Lane Lie Concerning Helen Markham? - Ben Holmes - 06-02-2016

R. Anderson Wrote:
Quote:Lane put no words in her mouth, that is balderdash too. Lane recorded that interview with the "screwball" Mrs Markham.

Why did he request immunity to appear before the WC on this point if he didn't? And yes, I've read the interview.....it's downright embarrassing to anyone with an ounce of integrity.

I note for the record that instead of merely citing what words Mark Lane had "put" in Helen Markham's mouth - Anderson demonstrated his cowardice by making a nonsensical argument. Indeed, had he merely read the testimony, it would be crystal clear why Mark Lane was asking for immunity... he was being asked to break the lawyer-client privilege, and could have been prosecuted for it.

Here's the relevant portion:

Mr. RANKIN. Do you have any writing from Mrs. Markham in connection with the interview that you referred to in your testimony?
Mr. LANE. Any document which Mrs. Markham wrote? Is that the question?
Mr. RANKIN. Either that or anything that she signed which purports to be her statement or affidavit or other recording.
Mr. LANE. I have nothing that she signed or that she wrote.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you have anything that you made up yourself from any interview with her?
Mr. LANE. Yes; I do.
Mr. RANKIN. Do you have that with you?
Mr. LANE. No; I do not.
Mr. RANKIN. Will you describe that document? Is it a paper or a tape recording, or what form does it have?
Mr. LANE. It is a tape recording and a transcript of the tape recording in writing.
Mr. RANKIN. Was the tape recording made by you?
Mr. LANE. I think we are now moving into an area where I would prefer not to answer questions, quite frankly. I have given to the Commission the results of my investigation, and I think that the Commission are aware of the fact that I have an attorney-client relationship existing. The Commission is now asking for working papers of an attorney. The Supreme Court has been quite plain, I think, on the question of the sanctity of working documents of attorneys. And I think, therefore, that the questions are no longer in a proper area.I might also indicate to the Commission that when I was retained by Marguerite Oswald to represent the interests of her son before this Commission, and the Commission declined to permit me to so represent Lee Oswald, it made it impossible for me to conduct the kind of cross-examination before this Commission of witnesses that I would have ordinarily conducted, and that entire conversation would have been in the presence of the Commission, obviously, had I been permitted to function as counsel for my client.
Mr. RANKIN. Will you describe to the Commission the attorney and client relationship that you claim to exist?
Mr. LANE. Yes. I should think the Commission would be well aware of that since I wrote to the Commission on the very day that I was retained and sent, as I recall, an affidavit from my client, detailing the purpose, the purpose of my being retained. I think that was during the very early days of this year.
Mr. RANKIN. Who was the client?
Mr. LANE. Marguerite Oswald retained me to conduct an investigation in reference to the charges that were made against her son, then deceased, and to represent his interests before this Commission.
Mr. RANKIN. And do you claim that that attorney-client relationship is one that exists now?
Mr. LANE. It does exist at the present time in relationship to a matter peripheral to this investigation. It certainly did exist at the time of my discussion with Mrs. Markham, and my discussion with Mrs. Markham took place solely because of the existence of that relationship and to further that relationship.

Quite clearly, Mark Lane wasn't afraid of providing this tape recording because it would reveal that Helen Markham was testifying truthfully, and he wasn't... as Anderson would have you believe.

Indeed, everyone can read the transcript for themselves...

Anderson is a proven liar.

Re: Did Mark Lane Lie Concerning Helen Markham? - Ben Holmes - 06-02-2016

R. Anderson Wrote:lol Like I've always said about you people: you don't even recognize dishonesty when you see it. He didn't ask for immunity over some taping issue......he specifically was concerned over the issue of perjury.

You're lying again, Anderson.

I quoted Mark Lane's testimony, he was quite specific, and NOWHERE does he even slightly imply any issue of perjury... not even a WHISPER.

Mark Lane makes it ABUNDANTLY clear that his issue was lawyer-client privilege - and all believers can do is keep lying about it.

Why does the truth need a lie?

Quote even a SINGLE WORD that implied Mark Lane was "concerned over the issue of perjury."

But no-one will... certainly not Anderson...

Re: Did Mark Lane Lie Concerning Helen Markham? - Ben Holmes - 06-02-2016

R. Anderson Wrote:Again: if that's all there was to it.....he would not have insisted on immunity from prosecution for perjury before turning over that tape.

It's really that simple. This is a guy who spent a career criticizing the WC......and it turns out he lied to them. Guy had a brass set I'll give him that.

You'd think that believers would get embarrassed at being caught lying so blatantly so often.

But Anderson just keeps right on posting lies, despite the fact that he can't defend his lie by quoting ANYTHING Mark Lane said in his testimony.

Why is it that critics are citing the evidence, and believers are simply spouting their un-sourced and provably false opinion?

Re: Did Mark Lane Lie Concerning Helen Markham? - Ben Holmes - 06-03-2016

R. Anderson Wrote:
Quote:AGAIN! Lane wanted immunity because it is illegal for an attorney to record a telephone call without advising the person called that he was recording it.

Nope.

And yet, it's quite clear in his testimony... Mark Lane felt he had a right to tape record it because he was acting within the lawyer-client relationship... but he knew that the Warren Commission could prosecute him - BUT NOT FOR PERJURY - A TOPIC NEVER RAISED IN HIS TESTIMONY.

Quote:"Former Assemblyman Mark Lane asked yesterday that his testimony before the Warren Commission be sent to the At­torney General's office "for prosecution for perjury" so that he might be allowed to prove "the absolute accuracy of my testimony."

Mr. Lane, a lawyer, testified last Thursday before the com­mission investigating the as­sassination of President Ken­nedy. Chief Justice Earl War­ren told him that the commis­sion had "every reason to doubt the truthfulness" of some of Mr. Lane's testimony. Mr. Lane has been making lecture tours here and abroad on the theme that Lee H. Oswald was not the assassin.

............

Yesterday, the lawyer said in a statement that "I shall play the tape recording during this month at a public meeting to which members of the press and members of the commission will be invited." He did not give the time or place of the meeting.

He also said that he had told the commission that "if I am in­formed no prosecution will re­sult, I will make the recording available to them." He said the commission had not responded, "indicating that it is they who are seeking to suppress the facts and the tape recording, not I."

---'Warren Committee Challenged by Lane', NY Times 7/8/1964

I find it amusing that Anderson can't figure it out. Mark Lane was VERY CLEAR in his testimony why he was refusing to hand over the tape - he didn't want to be prosecuted for it - yet was willing to hand it over if the Commission would grant immunity.

LATER - when the Warren Commission insinuated that Mark Lane had lied - THAT is the time when he challenged them to back up their insinuation with prosecution - which he KNEW he would beat. He was telling the Warren Commission to put their money where their mouth was.

And, of course, there was no prosecution... nor was there any perjury that Anderson can point to...

No wonder Anderson isn't interested in facing a knowledgeable critic...

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