[Ben Holmes]

Patrick C Wrote:Wow, I have not been called a liar.....

I reserve labeling someone a liar when they actually post a lie. Did you post something you knew to be a lie, and I missed it?

Patrick C Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:As is normal with WCR Supporters, you didn't really address the point that was being made, so I'll make it again:
The following facts fit far better with the intention of doing a cover-up...

For at the first meeting of the Warren Commission, here's some of Chief Warren's statements:

He did not want the Commission to employ any of their own investigators.
He did not want the Commission to gather evidence. Instead he wished for them to rely on reports made by other agencies like the FBI and Secret Service.
He did not want their hearings to be public. He did not want to employ the power of subpoena.
Incredibly, he did not even want to call any witnesses. He wanted to rely on interviews done by other agencies.
He then made a very curious comment, "Meetings where witnesses would be brought in would retard rather than help our investigation.

I know that not a SINGLE believer will step up and defend these facts as the beginnings of a real investigation...

Note that Patrick failed to do what I said no believer will... Patrick cannot defend these actions & statements as the beginning of a real investigation. The Warren Commission was a political operation designed to quash any notion of a conspiracy... and they failed to succeed in doing so...

There were yes I am sure political elements (the avoidance of the Castro plots by the CIA for example), but according to the likes of David Belin, they were absolutely urged to seek out a conspiracy.....problem is they did not fine one....

You've continued to refuse to address the fact that they demonstrated, right from the beginning, that they didn't want to actually do an investigation...

Patrick C Wrote:

Ben Holmes Wrote:The HSCA admitted to a probable conspiracy, and pointed out a number of flaws in the Warren Commission's handling of the case ... but the HSCA simply doesn't exist to the WCR Supporters...

Yes of course it does and I for one refer to it far more that the WC, but the HSCA concluded Oswald acted alone UNTIL the dictabelt evidence arrived......which IMO has been debunked completely. Blakey of course maintained the "Mob did it", but he never really showed anything but his hunches on that.....

Fonzi came out of it thinking a conspiracy existed and Lopez, but show me the "evidence" from HSCA that indicates a conspiracy....?

Why would you ask me to show you what the HSCA classified?

P.S. Still running from telling everyone how you would differentiate a shot heard from the Railroad yards from a shot heard from the Grassy Knoll.