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Vincent Bugliosi's 53 Reasons... #39 Refuted.

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RE: Vincent Bugliosi's 53 Reasons... #39 Refuted.
(03-31-2017, 10:55 PM)Hollywood Wrote:  
(03-31-2017, 10:50 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  
(03-31-2017, 10:41 PM)Hollywood Wrote:  
(03-31-2017, 10:07 PM)Ben Holmes Wrote:  
(03-31-2017, 03:41 PM)Hollywood Wrote:  Notice the ommission Ben is guilty of:  The difficulty in matching the bullets to Oswald's revolver arose from the barrel being rechambered before being sold and the revolver was not REBARELLED to handle a .38 bullet from the cartridge. Since a .38 caliber Smith and Wesson Special bullet has a slightly smaller diameter than a regular .38 S&W bullet, the bullets were slightly undersized for the barrel, causing an erratic passage down the barrel, thereby causing "inconsistent individual characteristic marks to be impressed or scratched on to the surface of the bullets" Each time it was fired, the bullet would pass down the barrel in a different way.

This is meaningless.

It's an explanation why they COULDN'T match the bullets... but this means that the bullets wouldn't match to my pistol either. Or John's pistol down the street... or my Uncle Ralph's pistol... or...

I can go on and on...

Explaining why bullets don't match ONE pistol has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not it could be matched to another pistol.

The issue is THAT THE BULLETS DIDN'T MATCH - you cannot use that fact to be evidence supporting your theory that Oswald shot Tippit.

Yet Bugliosi did. And that's simply wrong.
 
(03-31-2017, 03:41 PM)Hollywood Wrote:  Not mentioned by Mr Holmes was the cartridge cases being positively identified as coming from the revolver Oswald was arrested with. The FBI expert found IDENTICAL breech face and firing pin marks on the head of the cases, concluding that the four shells found at the Tippit murder scene had been fired from Oswald's revolver to the exclusion of all other weapons.

I'm quite sure that the current shells at NARA came from the pistol.

I quite doubt that the ORIGINAL shells did. The original shells were automatic, as described on scene.

This explains why chain of custody is so important in American justice - and these shells had a broken chain of custody.

 
(03-31-2017, 03:41 PM)Hollywood Wrote:  Multiple witnesess saw Oswald emptying these shells near some bushes or running from the scene.

You are, of course, merely claiming what you need to prove.

You merely assume that it was Oswald, therefore it must have been Oswald.

Then you simply run away from the ACTUAL facts & evidence that contradict your faith.
 
(03-31-2017, 03:41 PM)Hollywood Wrote:  Isn't it fascinating how conspiracy theorists cherry pick what they state and conveniently leave out these little tidbits of information? - they learned from the master prevaricator himself, Mark Lane.

Interestingly, each time Mark Lane comes up - believers make completely unsubstantiated claims.

You've labeled him a liar... now, can you quote (along with a cite to the page number ) from "Rush To Judgment" one of these alleged lies ... then cite the relevant evidence that shows it to be a lie?

My prediction (based on extensive past history) - you'll refuse to do so.

And THAT fact tells the true story...

Notice no denial that the empty hulls were unquestionably traced to Oswald's revolver by the FBI expert - just some insinuation that the shells were not legitimate or not the original shells collected - impressive, isn't it? 
[Ad Hominem removed]

Of course there's no "denial" - the problem isn't that the shells couldn't be demonstrated to have been fired from the pistol - the problem was the chain of custody on the shells themselves.

You complain that this isn't "impressive" - yet the American justice system routinely disallows evidence with no chain of custody - or allows it with the proviso that the jury is instructed on the problems and weakness of evidence that cannot be positively tied to the crime scene.

The evidence that the original shooting was done by an automatic is based on Callaway's eyewitness testimony, and on Sgt. Hill's on-scene radio report. This is highly credible evidence.

Callaway's testimony takes precedence over the FBI's ballistic testing of the hulls? - nonsense and you know it. The evidence against Oswald PRECLUDES any other scenario other than Oswald shot Tippit. Once again, the theorist KNOWS the evidence unavoidably points to Oswald so his ONLY approach is to TRY and shoot down that evidence. Fun watching them  make the attempt.

No need to defend the American justice system's reliance on chain of custody.

It's beyond any need to defend it.

I have no need to "shoot down" the evidence... you see, Callaway and Sgt. Hill are just as much evidence as FBI testing of shells.

There's no need for me to explain the contradiction... that's the job of the prosecution.

The fact that you can't... tells the tale.






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